Well, we decided to try to see if we could get air using mileage and we scored Business Elite non stop LAX-CDG. Now tonight I can book the CDG to NCE part. We're going in two days early. To buy those seats OW was $4700! Frank wanted to save the miles, but, for what? There is a 20% bonus for transferring miles from AMEX to Delta. We got them for 90K miles but we had miles on Delta in the bank from flying last year and then with the bonus it was not much more than a domestic flight WHOO HOOO