One more thing, and then I'll be quiet until some new objective information comes out.

Ngaire mentions a "problem cruise" on the Diamond that had many in an uproar. I think we were on that cruise. It was in the Caribbean in July, /03. It was HEAVILY discounted, it was "kids sail free", and it was open bar. So when we booked, we knew it ws going to be full to the gills and was going to have any problem that kids can think up to cause! And, oh yeah, it had a really cruddy itinerary, too! But it was offered at a too-cheap-to-stay-home price, so we booked it, knowing in advance the problems that awaited us. We had those, plus engine trouble. We were to visit Key West and then a sea day, and then a strange stop on Grand Cayman with wierd port times, like 7:00 AM to 11:00 AM or the like. The engine trouble caused us to miss Grand Cayman --- which had rather unusable port times for us anyway ---- and get a second day in Key West --- which we actually thought turned out better. For all this, everyone was volntarily given a $500 future cruise credit, announced while we were still onboard. Needless to say we were delighted with this, especially as we liked the "revised itinerary" better that that scheduled, and werefully aware at time of booking to expect "kid" and "full ship" issues. And the cruise was so cheap to begin with that, with the credit, out net cost was only about $1000 pp, including our outlay for air! Their was no "uproar" from me, to say the least.

This "problem cruise" was a totally diferent matter from that experienced on the PG on 5/28. In our case, we KNEW about the onboard demographics, and their potential problems, before we booked, and decided to accept them. And we all know that engine trouble can happen on any ship at any time, and is not the result of poor managment planning.

I would anticipate in the future that Radisson is going to be flooded with requests for information as to whether there are any corporate groups on sailings, especially on the PG due to its small size, and for information on the size of any booked group. It will be interesting to see how Radisson handles such requests for information.

Thanks,
Richard :) :) :)