Crystal, believe me that Mr. Conway and company know only too well that 'all-inclusive' is a live issue. And thank you, jhp for emphasizing one of my points. The other is that there are people who will just not cruise (or visit-attend) where they are giving away booze.

My wife's best friend (and long ago maid of honor) and her husband were seriously considering joining us for the Montreal to New York leg of the Navigator's fall repositioning two years ago, until she learned of the free liquor in the room and at dinner. That killed their participation cold, to all of our detriment. They are absolutely lovely people, but we (at least I) learned something from that experience. Twern't pretty, neither.

I do try and be as clear as I can, to the point of being altogether too wordy. That's my problem. I'm just too old to change, though I try.

I haven't expounded MY position on all-inclusive. My position is RSSC needs to get people out of their staterooms and into the public areas so they meet and mix with other cruisers. I will start a NEW THREAD on that topic (unless someone beats me to it), to reiterate and refine my views, share some what I believe are candid, non-confidential comments from RSSC, and listen to other's views again.

Meeting delightful people is perhaps THE reason we're still cruising, and have stuck with Radisson despite a growing number of gripes. Of course, this board really helps to introduce fellow-cruisers too. The Seven Seas Society tiers can help or hurt this effort, depending on how it is set up.

I agree with southernlady Donna that trying to work '"all-inclusive" to be a part of the tier benefits for SS members as that would be an unworkable situation'. This thread has had a lot of worthwhile thoughts and exchanges. If RSSC reads it and thinks, we'll all be better off come next year. If not, well, let’s be positive and hope for the best.