:D I see SOMEBODY caught it! ;)

Just as a note when Ken and I built out house the main thing we wanted was two toilets in the bathroom. We have his and hers. We still joke 9 years later that we can "do our thing" at the exact same time without leaving our bathroom.

Mine is very feminine with a oval top no squared off corners anywhere and his is a big squared off masculine model. People always comment on this they can tell which is which. Seriously we have loved having both it is very practical.

When Ken buys ugly items on trips (which those of you who have traveled with us have witnessed) the jug at the Monastery with Suzanne & Olivia for instance. Then I always say they will look great in his toilet. I looked in there the other day and he as a tiki from the Marquesas, the "jug" and a few other items on the floor. If we ever build again I think I will put shelves in his toilet for his treasures.

So you and Ken have side by side toilets? Well, guess you can throw privacy out the window.

I've never seen this before (though I've seen 2 toilets in one bathroom but each was in it's own little closet/alcove, not side by side.

I would think you'd know the answer to that one! :mad: :b:

and it didn't save anything!!!!

Just off the Mariner yesterday so am not up on what you've been discussing about the tubs, but from the Capt's mouth to my ear he said bathtubs were going during drydock. Seems like a mammouth task to me in ten days time but that's what he said. (Maybe it was all that red wine he likes to drink!) Anyway, we're gtlad to be back but the ship is still rocking and I'm hungry!

Did I mention what a great time we had with all you Minters? Clyde is still talking about it and wants to know when the next one is??

It's nice to see you on the board again, Jean, even if it means your cruise is over. Give our love to Clyde.

MarnaLou

jhp and all:

Common, guys! I took the tape measurer on my Mariner cruise only because there were then MANY posts on CC complaining about lack of headroom in the shower. I was curious about just how much of a problem this was. So I took a very small tape and found out. Then I reported "6'2" of headroom" to help prospective cruisers on this ship know in advance whether this would be a problem for them.

jhp:

Although the bathroom floors on the Mariner have those two 5" rises above suite floor level to tub floor level, the ceilings in the baths are the same height as the rest of the suite, and do not rise. Thus, the total 10" rise to tub floor level subtracts from the suite ceiling height of 7', giving 6'2".

Robert:

I'm not a ship designer either, but have done some residential design. In residential standards, as long as there is an open gap of at least 4" between upper floor and lower ceiling, the 5" rises should not have been needed for plumbing purposes. And, I've been on ships of other lines with similar layout with no rises in the bathroom floor. Jan Novak, a Hotel Director on other RSSC ships told me that the Mariner baths were mot designed that way, and the builder fouled up! Beyond this, anybody's guess is as good as mine!

Thanks,
Richard :) ;) :)

Glad you are back Jean and hope you had great time on remaining cruise - Joanna

Kathy, we'll gladly take you up on your offer to use your bath. It sounds wonderful.

Welcome back Jean and Clyde!

Actually, I just wanted to let you all know that I did do things on our Mariner cruise besides measure bathrooms. It was Nice to Rome, including Monte Carlo and all those beautiful little Italian villiages by the sea --- and they looked just the way I'd always imagined. We had a few "hitches" like delayed luggage, broken down shuttle bus, and broken down tender, and an excursion bus driver who cancelled with no notice. But Radisson handled the problems so smoothly it was like no problem at all. And we really loved the Mariner as well. The food, service, itinerary, crew staff, entertainment, and fellow guests were excellent. No matter what is done with the bathrooms, we look forward to cruising on her again. The only reason I measured the headroom in the tub/shower was that this board was yet to be born, and I (and many of us) was posting primarily on CC. On that board at that time, there were many "rants" about the Mariner and its "showers for midgets (which insulted the Mariner and little people as well), so I just thought that as I was booked then in the near future, I'd take a tape and find out.

Like Kathy, we did a bathroom remodel -- actually part of an add-on, in 2000. The resulting master bath has 235 sq. ft., an enclosed "potty room", two separate vanities with sinks, a walk in shower with bench designed so no shower door or curtain was required, and a large jetted tub in one corner inset into a marble platform.

What this has to do with cruising and the Mariner's tubs is this. Our builder was very clear that the bottom of the tub be no higher than the floor of the bathroom. He said that stepping into a tub where the tub bottom is higher than the floor was difficult to impossible for anyone with leg or foot problems. (I think he also said something about this violating local building codes.) As an arthritic condition in my feet and one ankle has progressed, I see what he meant!

Chip knows that I'm a technically-oriented guy from the Mercedes Benz Club boards. I had just heard so much about this situation on the CC board then that I wanted to quantify it. Sorry if I offended anyone.

Thanks,
Richard

Richard: You did NOT offend a soul - always good to have a detail person around as I am not close to being one - I was teasing when I asked what you did for relaxation - keep posting informative posts! joanna

No not side by side toilets Marcie. We have one each with a door. I dont want to view Kens "treasures" (and I do mean the items he buys on trips) anymore than I have to.

Of course, Ngaire, that's what I've envisioned in these large master baths. Even most custom built home designers/architects don't think of this. We're on the same wave length!

Ngaire - ROFL! :)

Richard - as a fellow technically oriented person, I appreciate the details ...

Masaki

Ngaire, would that "treasure" you speak of be a ring holder????? <img border="0" alt="[naughty]" title="" src="graemlins/naughty.gif" /> <img border="0" alt="[naughty]" title="" src="graemlins/naughty.gif" /> <img border="0" alt="[naughty]" title="" src="graemlins/naughty.gif" />

p.s.
Richard, you offend NO ONE!! Any teasing (including mine) is good natured! As Joanna said, many of us just aren't as detail oriented as you!! Perhaps we are just jealous! :)
Keep up the very informative posts!!
Sheri

I personally love the bathrooms on the mariner (I'm a sucker for marble in the bathrooms, extra deep tubs and great water pressure)... BUT if I could wish for one other item, it would be the other sink...only the suites have the double sink.

The few suites on the Mariner that will have the tub taken out will have a bench in them so that people can sit on them...I think that will help the folks who may be nervous standing otherwise...the latest ish of Inspirations has the picture of what the shower will look like as well as the cabins that will have this configuration.

Good water pressure and constant availability of hot water are two features present on all Radisson ships which I feel get too little favorable comment. Radisson's are the only ships I have cruised where there has never been a shortage of hot water and/or pressure at times. And that's a very good thing.

Rather than abolish the tubs, it would seem to be an easier and cheaper solution to simply replace the tubs with ones that are not raised 5" above the bathroom floor (so as to give 6' 7" headroom) and perhaps install wider tubs to accomodate large feet, as Mr. Kimmi suggests.

Thanks,
Richard :) :) :)

Incidentally, I remember reading an article in the Journal about how urinals are now in vogue for home bathroom design. A number of men want fancy urinals in addition to the standard toilet. I guess that's one way to get around having to toilet-train men after the age of 3. I think men (or at least me) are just genetically incapable of working the toilet seat effectively. It's one of those Y-chromosome things. And as my sister likes to remind me, Y-chromosomes are mutated, defective X-chromosomes.

Lawrence,

I solved that problem with my remodel. To flush, you must put the seat and lid down and the one that I bought is called a soft close seat so you barely tap it and it floats down without banging.

Oh Lawrence, Clara is one very bright girl! LOL!