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Cost of Cruise Extras #64270 09/26/05 03:30 AM
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Published in the Boston Globe:

Beware cruise extras that can almost double cost of the trip by Richard P. Carpenter, Globe Correspondent September 25, 2005

So you're going on a cruise you booked at a bargain price? Well, step right up and learn how you can virtually double your spending with hardly any effort.

True, nearly all cruises include meals and entertainment in their price. So what is there left to spend on? Let me answer by citing my most recent cruise, an 11-day sailing aboard the Norwegian Wind to the Hawaiian Islands and Fanning Island in the central Pacific.

Cruise prices began at an almost unbelievable $899 a person, double occupancy. With the choice of a better cabin, the addition of insurance and various fees, and the subtraction of a shipboard credit of $50 each, the price was still only about $1,350. Because we had a stack of frequent-flier miles, air fare cost nothing. Still, on any cruise ship, there's a whole lot of selling going on. So let's look at ways the cost could have mounted.

Service with a smile. Tipping for cabin stewards and dining room waitstaff is expected on all but a few cruise ships. On Norwegian Cruise Line, a hassle-free service charge is a substitute; on the Wind, the charge was $10 per person per day.

Additional per-person cost: $110. New total: $1,460.

Land, ho! With few exceptions, land excursions at the ports that a large ship visits cost extra. On the Wind, prices ranged from $25 for a walking tour to $399 for a ''Big Island Spectacular," which included a helicopter ride. Let's be conservative throughout this essay and say we spent an average of $50 for tours on each of the seven days that ports were visited.

Additional per-person cost: $350. New total: $1,810.

Here's looking at you, kid. The warm weather and convivial shipboard atmosphere seem to raise a thirst for a frothy cocktail or perhaps wine with dinner. Alcohol prices are comparable to those on shore, so let's suppose a relatively modest figure of $10 a day.

Additional per-person cost $110. New total: $1,920.

Cruising the Web. Most ships now have Internet cafes. At 75 cents a minute for a not-overly-quick satellite connection, costs can add up quickly. I don't have to be hypothetical about this one: I easily spent $60 on the Internet. My wife, on the other hand, spent nothing. So let's divide the expense. (Let's also note that at some ports there were Internet cafes charging as little as 8 cents a minute.)

Additional per-person cost: $30. New total: $1,950.

Shopping at sea. Although many passengers immediately head for the shops when they reach a port, there are abundant opportunities to buy nice goods (jewels, gold, watches, perfumes, collectible figurines, clothing, etc.) on a cruise ship itself. If one were to take advantage of a $125 special at the Colombian Emeralds Store, offered on the first full day of the cruise, plus make a few assorted other purchases, the cost could add up to $200 for two.

Additional per-person cost: $100. New total: $2,050.

Art for money's sake. Onboard art auctions have become a cruise-ship staple in recent years. Part of the pitch is that prices are cheaper than on land and that your purchase may appreciate in the years to come. Maybe so, but it really helps if you know your art and resist bidding on impulse. Many pay hundreds or even thousands for works up for bid. Although I didn't bid, I went to my first auction at sea on the promise that each attendee would be given an artwork valued at $95. The question is, valued by whom? After the cruise, I saw a half-dozen copies of my ''seriolithograph" for sale on eBay; only one sold -- for $2.99. Anyway, pretend you bought a nice painting of a street scene for, say, $300.

Additional per-person cost: $150. New total: $2,200.

Aaaah, the spa. Spas at sea are now fixtures, and there is no denying that a massage or facial can make you feel grand. Let us say husband and wife spent $75 each.

Additional per-person cost: $75. New total: $2,275.

Taking a chance. Here's a rarity: Casino gambling doesn't exist aboard the Norwegian Wind. That's because it is forbidden in Hawaiian waters. For most people, that means less spending. But there were bingo games almost daily, with various card combinations available for purchase. Since we're playing just suppose, let's add another $60 per person.

Additional per-person cost $60. New total: $2,335.

Using modest figures, we've nearly doubled our initial outlay, and while there are several other opportunities to spend (fees for specialty restaurants, professional photos taken onboard, the cost of soft drinks, and even special services like teeth whitening), let's stop here. The point is that although cruises include an awful lot for the price, they do not include everything you are likely to want. So it may pay to keep the word ''moderation" in mind as you go from activity to activity. As one member of the cruise staff told the audience at the final onboard show, ''We know you've had a good time. In a month or so [when you get your credit-card bill], you'll see just how good a time you had!"

Even more inclusive

Steve Perillo, president of PerilloTours, apparently agrees with the above assessment. ''You quickly learn that a seven-night cruise advertised for $599 is no bargain," he says in a press release, adding that ''you'll have plenty of extras. . . . In the end, you'll be paying $1,200 per person, and for the worst stateroom on board!" His alternative is cruises whose price includes port fees, wines, soft drinks, some shore activities, other amenities, and tips. Weeklong eastern Caribbean and western Caribbean trips aboard the Costa Mediterranea start at $1,099 for the eastern itinerary and $1,199 for the western one. Those prices are effective November-April.

Call 800-431-1515 or visit www.perillotours.com.

Savings by e-mail

Commercial e-mail can be a nuisance but sometimes it pays to sign up. For example, Grand Circle Travel has been e-mailing price cuts of up to $1,100 per person for certain sailings of its European river cruises.

Visit www.gct.com and look for E-newsletter sign-up on the home page.

The critics speak

If you're planning a cruise and want to learn what others have thought of a given journey or ship, visit www.cruisecritic.com, where passengers sound off. Keep in mind that the likes and dislikes of others might not jibe with yours.

For a worthy person

Princess Cruises will award 40 complimentary seven-day cruises to the Caribbean and Mexican Riviera to individuals who deserve to ''escape completely," which is Princess's current slogan. If you have a deserving friend, family member, coworker, or teacher, tell Princess their story by going to www.princess.com/escape. The entry deadline is Friday.

When not included, hotel taxes, airport fees, and port charges can add significantly to the price of a trip. Most prices quoted are for double occupancy; solo travelers will usually pay more. Offers are subject to availability and there may be blackout dates. Richard P. Carpenter can be reached at carpenter@globe.com.

© Copyright 2005 The New York Times Company


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Re: Cost of Cruise Extras #64271 09/26/05 04:52 AM
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Good article, Denise - thanks for posting it. When we were on the Celebrity Millenium in 2002 it was right after our 1st RSSC Cruise. We tried to make it a comparable experience to the Mariner. We got mini-suite - not quite equivalent to the standard Mariner Suite and the room cost us $2000 per person. With the spa (I did the "sale" treatments - 1/2 price if you booked at Bingo) since I thought $125 for a massage was too expensive, picked up my own Diet Cokes in Port (They were $2.50 each). A bottle of Kendall Jackson Chardonnay ($7.50 in the grocery store) was $42.00 on board. Anyway, Our shipboard bill was another $1000 per person. We thought we were going to save money. You know the expression, I coulda had a V-8? And the experience was no where near the quality service. I don't even consider any other line but RSSC now. Maybe when I've done all they have for me on the itinerary list, then I could try a SilverSeas or Crystal experience.


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We realized that our RSSC trips often tally up the same as a HAL trip when you book an equivalent room on HAL and pay the extras.

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Last spring on the Paul Gaugin in Polynesia there was a woman who was on her first cruise. Thus, she didn't have any of the, uh, biases about various cruise lines that many of us have.

Before choosing which cruise to take, she did a spreadsheet of the PG versus Princess and came up with a difference of a couple of hundred dollars when all was accounted for.

Having spent a week on the PG with her and her husband, I would guess that since neither seemed to be heavy partiers and/or drinkers the difference in cost probably came in less than this. Maybe zero.

-- David

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Very interesting article Denise. It will be interesting for me to compare the 10/15/05 PG costs (not including air of course), with my past cruises on Hal, Celebrity and Carnival. I really enjoyed Hal and Celebrity. Had a nice time on Carnival since it was with a group of friends, but I don't know that I would cruise with Carnival again. BUT, I guess you never know!

I'm looking forward to more included "stuff" on RSSC.

David: I was deciding between the PG and Princess and choose the PG because I felt the costs would be almost the same after all was said and done and I liked what I had read about RSSC. This will be my first cruise with them.

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That is a very good article Denise. We have tried to convince our friends that love Royal Caribbean to sail with us, but says that SS is too expensive. I have tried to point out that if they did the similar cabin, which they always are in an upper end suite, that by the time they figure those extras, that our cruises are actually less.


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I really believe that so many people just look at cruise fare costs, not factoring in "extras." The fare is not the whole picture. I feel that this article spells it out very well.

We have found, time and again, that what we pay for RSSC is usually a great deal - except for our Baltics cruise, which was very pricey - but worth it!


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I think RSSC is very good value for the money, especially with the size of the ship. Being on a large crowded ship, even in one of the best suites can't compare to the Radisson experience.
Denise, Why was the Baltics so pricey? We are on BLISS next June, and actually thought the cruise cost was very reasonable with early booking,onboard booking, AMex platinum, B&K....etc. Just curious, hope that is not an inappropriate question.

Thanks, Pam

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Hi Pam,

Yours is not an inappropriate question and I'm more than happy to reply.

We did have a few reductions on our cruise; however, it came out to approx. $4,000 PP for 7 days. Considering the great fares we paid for our prior cruises, this was pricey (in our opinion, of course). Many other Baltic cruises had additional incentives added along the way, but our particular cruise didn't. Our sailing was sold out, according to RSSC, as I did inquire. Under such circumstances, we would have normally changed to another sailing. We didn't because Ngaire and Ken were escorting our group and we really wanted to sail with them. Otherwise, we would have changed, as we found the fare far more reasonable on other dates.

While the fare was higher than we've paid in the past, the cruise was outstanding from start to finish! Sailing with Ngaire, Ken, and our terrific group was great and we had a truly lovely time.

You, too, will enjoy this cruise so much. Is BLISS the cruise Ngaire and Ken are escorting in June? I believe she mentioned there were approx. 70 people in this group, if I'm not mistaken.


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Hi Denise,

Yes, we are on BLISS with the big group escorted by Ngaire. We just found B&K before our "Wine" cruise and have now switched agents! Linda has been great....so helpful AND knowledgable. I think the only part of the BLISS cruise that will be expensive for us are the Red October tours. I am sure they add a chunk onto the per day costs. However, we are lucky in that flights are negligible since we are currently living overseas. My big problem with the European air carriers is the luggage restriction. We were assessed 80 British pounds ($150) for the Wine cruise....our tickets cost less than that for both of us to go from the northeast of England down to Heathrow!
Loved your review of the trip....we are very excited about BLISS!
Cheers, Pam

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Is BLISS the trip from Dover to Copenhagen on June 19? (I didn't know it had an Acronym?) We are signed up on that 12 night cruise too (a G guarantee)! We aren't sure if we'll be able to make it though, lots going on including MUSH.


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Marcie, Yes that is the one.
BLISS: Baltic lands in Scandinavian Seas!

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Just to update as everyone loves to know the numbers.

Bliss - Baltics 6/19/06- Voyager - 82 passengers
MUSH - Alaska - 8/30/06 - Mariner - 92 Passengers
No name - 8/8/06 Dover to MC - Navigator 42 passengers
Kiwi NZ - 11/15/06 Mariner - 30 passengers

That Baltics trip was a real bargain. Lots of LCT'ers on that one.

The trip Denise took last year was one of the few that just did not get any specials. It was just a sailing that sold. However, on the bright side we had better weather than any of the other cruises so maybe we were lucky after all.

Of course not all these are LCT members. In fact on 8/09/06 not sure any are LCT members.

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Ngaire, you only mentioned one bright side and luck of our Baltics trip this year - the weather. There were many other bright sides and luck on our particular sailing - cruising once again with you and Ken, the great group of people in our group, and the overall fantastic experience sailing on the Voyager! How about that awesome lobster BBQ lunch on our last day? Can't put a price tag on all that!


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So true!!! We had a lovely group of people on that trip and I did SERIOUS damage to the Lobster supply on that ship. How about the lamb - how much more could a girl eat??

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Thanks to your generosity, we all shared in that lamb. How much more could a girl eat? I'm not the girl to ask, Ngaire. I won't even divulge how many lobster tails I inhaled!

BTW - Have you had any wonderful Midori Margueritas since you've returned?


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