Well said Dan, in fact you say many things so well!!! I'm still using the " LA-Sydney to torture people in hell" comment. We have experienced a boatful of kids on the Diamond 2 summers ago, and i still wake up in the night over it (just kidding, but it was really bad). As is typical in my opinion the parents of these kids were the most obvoxious people i've ever met. So we had the complete mixed bag. They literally took over the ship. Babies are easier to have around.
