I really believe sometimes is a hit or miss. computer/phone call even the points guys. I actually did better with my own option than the ones they came up with for France/Italy but it all takes times I guess you have to weigh the options..

I knew one thing I didn't want to lose direct flights Lax-Syd and then Brisbane to LAX ,and the Virgin Business product looks pretty good as well.. 160k Delta miles roundtrip per ticket.