Ahhh, ok, then I misunderstood jhp. I almost booked The Reefs special that is running thru Sept. 4th, but after dividing the price by 5 nights figured out it really wasn't a special or much of one, so better to have a greater choice of dates and go when we want. Question....have you ever been there when their rates drop in early November? Was wondering if the water is too cold then for swimming. Thanks!